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Charisse Joy Melegrito's avatar

oh yes someone said the j word

Teresa Turner's avatar

Beautifully spoken 💃

Melanie's avatar

God bless you Teresa.

Dr. J. S. NaDoli's avatar

Joy surpasses happiness in every way, everyday.

Melanie's avatar

Amen. It's everlasting.

Dr. Michael Napier PhD's avatar

Great article sister.

Melanie's avatar

Thanks Michael. Glory to God.

Florian Morin's avatar

I have content and tasks around the joy concept. Any interest?

Melanie's avatar

Are you a Christian Florian? I read one of your articles. It’s extremely well-written. However, I. Consider joy a spiritual state. I’m not sure that you agree.

Florian Morin's avatar

Joy, in my theory, is related to a very low evaluative state, wich may explain the link with spirituality.

Melanie's avatar

Do you mean because it is not empirically measurable? Or am I misunderstanding you? I am guessing you are not a Christian, as you didn't answer my question.

Florian Morin's avatar

Do you mean because it is not empirically measurable?

It is difficult to measure, yes, because joy appears when evaluation stamps down, so measuring it collapses it easily.

What I'm saying is that joy happens with practices that decrease evaluation.

Basically, my task bypass other practices by directly hacking the evaluative gain itself.

Melanie's avatar

I don't understand you Florian. But yes. You rephrased what I said about Joy not being empirically measurable. Although, I suppose scientist could kind of measure bodily responses to it. Like smiling, laughter, raised blood pressure and so on. Joy itself is spiritual though.

Florian Morin's avatar

The problem is twofold.

First, joy is not that much linked to laughting. It is thought that children got joy almost as a default state, yet they don't smile all the time. Joy seems linked to chest-pleasure, more than smiling.

And second, if joy is linked to low evaluation, then measuring it with the presence of an external observator may prevent the appearence of joy itself.

That why it's not easy to measure. Joy is not very visible from the outside, and don't like to be evaluated.